TEMPERS flared at last Thursday's Waltham Forest Council meeting when Councillor Michael Fish accused a Labour councillor of telling lies about him.

During a debate on vocational training for the long-term unemployed Councillor Clive Dunn (NOTE: a confusion between Clive Morton and Chris Dunn. Clive Dunn was an actor in a tv programme called Dad's Army. In this case the speaker was probably Chris Dunn, who had considerable expertise on these matters. Michael Fish was a member of a family that owned a jewellers.) said that Mr Fish had no idea how many places were available on Manpower Services Commission schemes and knew nothing about the MSC.

"He knows nothing about the MSC. He talks about there being 4,500 places but this is a myth."

Mr Fish immediately jumped to his feet shouting: "He is a liar, I do understand how the MSC works. I have spent some time there finding out about vocational training."

He was opposing proposals for a council survey into the needs, aspirations and skill levels of long-term unemployed.

Recommendations to set up a vocational training initiative pilot scheme were approved.