Dear David, Thank you for your letter of 30th January 02 with enclosures and for previous letters. You have set out well the pedigree of Brind of Wanborough Stanton Fitz-Herbert, which may well repay studying. I think it is rather unlikely that I shall make the effort required to view the Court Rolls and Books.

I don't know whether I told you that I paid a visit to Liddington (while staying at Trowbridge) not so long ago. I had not intended to call at the Manor House, but, as things turned out, I did and was invited in by the owner/ occupier, Lord Joel Joffe, who was very helpful. He rang a Mr Archer and arranged with him to meet me at the church and let me go into the church building, where I saw the Brind memorials. Before I left the Manor House, Lord Joffe and myself had a short conversation. He did not know much about the history of the house or that any Brinds had lived there (I don't think that he has lived there very long). He agreed with me that there did not seem to be any evidence on the house frontage of there having been any Arms there, nor evidence of any Portico that might have been pulled down (the house has no Portico now). He was able to show me some photographs (framed) of the building. I don't know how old these were. I have since written to him sending him a photograph of the Hatchment in my possession and giving him other information, including a copy of the family tree. He has since replied saying that if he ever finds "the" (or a) coat of arms he will let me know. I had suggested to him that these coats of arms are often seen in or above fireplaces (and I could see that there was an old fireplace up on the next floor), so I think we can take it that the arms are not a feature there.

I have alsoo since written to Mr Archer giving him a lot of information as he is a member of a local history society.

You may certainly pass a copy of my family tree to Mr Jonathan Brind. As a result of information from Mrs John Comyn, assistant to Clarenceus King of Arms, the tree needs redrafting to include further descendants and to show John Brind, married to Gwenny, with a daughter Mary Jane, bapitsed 5-1-1845, as possibly the second child of George (1770-1861) and Ann. Unfortunately I do not seem to be able to find time (!) to do this at present.

I have pleasure in sending you copies of letters recently received from Clarenceux King of Arms and his assistant and copies of my replies thereto. The College of Arms conclusions are really as expected but make interesting reading.

Best wishes for 2002, Yours Noel. (Jotham)