Richard = Sarah (Glover) =18/9/1866 in Bow.
See certificate		 Henrietta (Brooks)
b. about 1797/8 Woolwich (by 1851 census)
perhaps he disguised his age 		b. about 1796/7, in Kent (by 1851 census)
perhaps she disguised her age 		After Sarah died Richard married a young neighbour but died soon afterwards, shortly after the birth of their child.

See note about this interesting discovery.		 = George Gates in 1874 see certificate
See information from Henrietta's family bible
See this note
census entries 1841 census
1851 census		 See note about Glovers
d. 1867(65) Poplar
See certificate		 d. 1861 Poplar
See certificate
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Caroline Emily Henry Mary Ann Richard William Maria Sarah Henrietta Maria
b. Mar 5, 1820 Plumstead
C. St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, 31/3/1820		 b. Nov 23, 1822 Plumstead
C. St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, 22/12/1822		 b. May 12, 1826 Plumstead
C. St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, 4/6/1826
See Boyds entry		 b. Oct 7, 1828 Plumstead
C. St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, 9/11/1828		 b. March 21, 1833 Plumstead
baptised 24/4/1833 in Kent 		b. Eighth of May 1838 Woolwich
Certificate
C. St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, 3/6/1838		 b. Second November 1866
See certificate
= 19/08/1844 William Rogers Dunstan
at Stepney		= 16/08/1847 George Brill
at Stepney		 = Elizabeth Martha Ames (Keeble) =Henry  Sangster Poplar 22/May/1853
See certificate		 =Eleanor Collings (1859 Greenwich)
See certificate
1851: domestic servant
1861 Census says Mary Ann Sangster was born in about 1830 in Woolwich.
d 1904 Woolwich [70] d 1852

The link about Henrietta Brooks who married a Richard Brind is very confusing. Certainly Richard born 1834ish fits the bill but he married Eleanor Collings in 1859. I think it more likely that your suggestion that she was the second wife of Richard Brind born 1797/8 is probably the right one. The fact that they married just two months before she gave birth suggests that marriage may not have been Richard's original intention. His brother John who married Ann Winn, married a much younger woman after Ann's death, a Jane Grice half his age in 1855: so presumimg this is correct (which one should never do) Richard had a precedent. Jennifer O'Sullivan July 2011
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Yaki's tree also says: See reference to the Brind family in the records of the Woolwich district by W T Vincent.

The Records of the Woolwich District W.T. Vincent
Published in the 1890s. W.T. Vincent was the editor of Kentish Independent for 23 years and 30 years as a reporter. The events leading up to the proposal for a steam ferry and the opening are covered.

Vincent was evidently a colourful character and I believe his effigy was once burnt by an angry mob protesting about the privatisation of public land. I think he had given evidence in some kind of court case.

See THE FENCES: BATTLES FOR THE COMMONS IN SOUTH LONDON


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See 1841 census
See 1851 census
Richard Brind born 1798 in Woolwich addresses
1841: Back of Taylors Buildings, Bull Fields, Charlton, Kent
1851: Poplar, Middlesex
Richard Brind jobs
1841: Shipwright
1851: Pentioner


In 1841 a family of Glovers were neighbours of Richard and Sarah Brind. Michael Glover, head of the family, was not from Middlesex, and aged about 40. Sarah Brind (nee Glover) was of the same sort of age and like Michael was not born in Middlesex. Were they brother and sister? If so perhaps they were born in Wiltshire, since Sarah's death was recorded in Wiltshire.

Certified copy of an entry of DEATH
Registration district Poplar Union 1867 DEATH in the Sub-district of Poplar in the County of Middlesex
No When and where died Name and surname Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Signature, description and residence of informant When registered Signature of registrar
86 April first 1867
3 Naval Row, North Poplar		 Richard
Brind		 Male 65 years Shipwright Sudden congestion of the Brain Information received from John Humphreys
Coroner for Middlesex inquest held April 4, 1867		 Tenth April
1867		 James Pinkney
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Registration district of Poplar Union
1866 BIRTH in the sub-district of Polar in the County of Middlesex
No When and
where born		 Name, if any Sex Name and surname
of father		 Name, surname and
maiden surname of mother		 Occupation of father Signature, description and
residence of informant		 When registered Signature of registrar Name entered after
registration
419 Second November 1866
3 Naval Row		 Henrietta Maria Girl Richard Brind Henrietta
Brind
formerly Brooks		 Ship
wright
journey
man		 R Brind
Father
3 Naval Row
Poplar		 First December
1866		 James Pinckney
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Certified copy of an entry of DEATH
Registration district Poplar Union 1867 DEATH in the Sub-district of Poplar in the County of Middlesex
No When and where died Name and surname Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Signature, description and residence of informant When registered Signature of registrar
79 Twenty fourth August 1861
3 Naval Row		 Sarah
Brind		 Female 63 years Wife of Richard Brind Shipwright journeyman Bronchitis chronic months certified x the mark of Richard Brind present at the death
3 Naval Row
Poplar		 Twenty eighth August
1861		 A? Pinkney
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From: Tim Gates
Date: 9 May 2016 at 17:46
Subject: Re: Henrietta Brooks
Jonathan
Thanks for your response.
The Bible is a thick octavo, bound in leather and measuring 200mm x 130mm x 60mm thick. Originally it was fastened by two brass clasps (now broken). Philip, lord Wharton, 4th Baron Wharton (1613-96), was a devout Protestant who left money in his will to pay for bibles to be distributed by his trustees. This is one such example.
I attach photos of the inscriptions on the first free endpaper and the inside of the back cover. In deference to privacy concerns of my immediate family I have covered over relatively recent details added by my own father. What I know of Henrietta Brooks is as follows (you will probably know much or all of this already). Her parents were George Brooks and Elizabeth Kensall who married on 6 September 1838. Henrietta appears to have been their third daughter and was born in Poplar of 3rd Feb 1844. Her first husband was Richard Brind whom she married in September 1866, in Poplar. So far as I know Richard Brind died in Poplar in June 1867; perhaps you can confirm this?).
Henrietta Brind, now a widow, married my great-grandfather, George Gates, in Stepney on 23rd February 1874. So far as I know they had six children, of whom three died in infancy. The 1891 census describes Henrietta, then 46, as 'deaf'. She died at 146 Abbott Road, Bromley, aged 57, on 1st January 1896. The death certificate gives the cause of death as 'phthisis, 15 months' which probably means TB. She was buried in the East London Cemetery on 7th January 1896 (grave no. 19883).
If there is anything else I can tell you, please let me know. Equally if you can offer me anything more I would be most grateful. My greatest problem has been in trying to discover the parentage of George Gates in which I have mostly failed.
Best wishes,
Tim
On 9 May 2016 at 13:12, Jonathan Brind wrote:
Thanks for keeping me in the loop. Have you got a copy of the family tree in the bible? I'd like to see it.
On 8 May 2016 at 22:51, Tim Gates wrote:
Dear Jonathon,
I have just come across a post placed on the web by Joan Flood, in November 2009, concerning her husband's great-grandmother (Henrietta Brooks), to which you replied with further details of her family and marriage.
As it happens, Henrietta Brooks's second husband was my great-grandfather, George Gates.
I have in my possession a bible that belonged to George Brooks in 1832 (when he was a boy of 14 years old). It contains notes on various marriages and descendants of his family.
Over the coming days I will see what else I can come up with.
I have sent an email to Joan Flood using the address given in her 2009 post and thought I'd contact you also.
Best wishes,
Tim Gates
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